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Something Interesting...

Post by VoodooLinzi » Sun Oct 03, 2004 1:58 pm

A friend of mine posted this over on the League Yahoo group, and I thought it'd be interesting to post on this forum too and see people's thoughts on it....

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I found a discussion on one of the "comedy industry" forums that I don't
read very often, and found it utterly fascinating. It's interesting to see
what someone replied when asked if the Gents have ever spoken in public, and in detail, about their problems with Series 3.

Here's the post...

"They've never spoken about it directly as far as I know, only veiled
references to it - all that's known/deduced by various people are the
basics:

- They want a format change, the BBC don't.
- They have a big bust-up with Jane Root over it.
- They take the piss out of Root in the actual series by basing the 'Judith
Buckle' character on her.
- The third series is put in a shit slot and given minimal advertising (not
to mention the budget reductions it went through), which is taken as a
'don't *beep* with us' warning, angering them and leaving them to pass over on the fourth series commission and go and do the film they'd planned 'for the future'.
- Series 3 DVD commentary features much audible restraint and sniggering
when the Judith Buckle character appears, along with Mark Gatiss suddenly
heralding her with "it's the witch", which leads to about a minute of
hysterics.
- Upon BBC2's anniversary Root appears on BBC Breakfast with a nervous and uncomfortable Reece Shearsmith, who is displaying barely-disguised scorn at her plastic gushing over the series.

Shearsmith is very tetchy throughout that commentary, particularly whenever
any issue of censorship/BBC politics comes up, and you get the impression
that the making of that series was not a happy time.

I'll concede that they can be a little big-headed when positive
reviews/awards come up, but I cannot criticise them for anything they did
during that period - someone like Gervais would never have displayed a '*beep* off, we want to do something different' attitude, and they should be
applauded for actually trying something."

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Sefi - your friend was right about the Jane Root thing :o

I should add that although most of this is obviously just speculation, apparently the people on this comedy-industry forum are a very knowledgable bunch and know what they're talking about :)

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Post by hellodaaave » Sun Oct 03, 2004 2:01 pm

I saw that at the Group. Veeeeery interesting

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Post by Katie_c » Sun Oct 03, 2004 2:07 pm

Yes it is interesting. I wonder if that's why the BBC are nothing to do with the film as well. I read somewhere a while ago, that some BBC bigwigs were embarrassed about not being involved in the big screen version of one of their hit shows...

Do you have the website address for the comedy forum? I'd like to have a look - Jane Root doesn't look as if she's going to win any popularity prizes any time soon, does she? :lol:

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Post by VoodooLinzi » Sun Oct 03, 2004 2:39 pm

Unfortunately I don't! I'd like to know what it is too actually, I'll try and find out :)

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Post by Tubbs get undressed » Sun Oct 03, 2004 2:49 pm

Hmmm *strokes beard*
Is that why i have to wash my face with a potato?

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Post by Son of Tubbs returns! » Sun Oct 03, 2004 3:03 pm

But the BBC have no imagination,they like to churn out the same thing weeke after week and when it has been flogged to death,axe it!

The BBC is run by accountants and not artistic people.

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Re: Something Interesting...

Post by Laura Folds Five » Sun Oct 03, 2004 3:51 pm

someone like Gervais would never have displayed a '*beep* off, we want to do something different' attitude, and they should be
applauded for actually trying something.
grr :evil: , why do people slag off gervais so much. he's always done exactly what he wants, not what he's told to.

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Post by VoodooLinzi » Sun Oct 03, 2004 4:18 pm

Actually, I'm glad you mentioned that Laura! I thought that was an unfair dig at Ricky Gervais too :?

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Post by serafina pekkala » Sun Oct 03, 2004 5:18 pm

Sefi - your friend was right about the Jane Root thing
Where was this posted originally, Linzi - cos i think my pal, Stonesy from Notbbc, should be able to read it ... was it somewhere like Chortle or 'industry' site??

But really, the clues are all there if you care to join the dots. The lads don't really disguise their contempt too much ... like 321, the clue is in the question!!! :lol:

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Post by VoodooLinzi » Sun Oct 03, 2004 5:25 pm

Where was this posted originally, Linzi - cos i think my pal, Stonesy from Notbbc, should be able to read it ... was it somewhere like Chortle or 'industry' site??
I have no idea where it is originally from! I'll ask and let you know...

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Post by mama lazarou » Mon Oct 04, 2004 2:27 pm

umm who's jane root??

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Post by Cheeky Chezzy Woo » Mon Oct 04, 2004 7:20 pm

i believe she was, or still is the commissioner for bbc2! is that right?

what is interesting about all this is the bbc haven't commissioned a 4th series because of all this.. but as soon as the gents go off to film four (is that right? i think i read it was film four) to do the film, they start moaning about them by saying things like "they were a bbc comedy and a bbc radio show".
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Post by Tubbs get undressed » Mon Oct 04, 2004 7:52 pm

mama lazarou wrote:umm who's jane root??
A bitch
Is that why i have to wash my face with a potato?

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Post by mama lazarou » Tue Oct 05, 2004 12:22 pm

haha! blunt well done!

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Post by Stonesy » Mon Oct 11, 2004 9:26 am

Howdy,
I'm the friend Serafina Pekkala mentioned. I think what the original person has said is a tad melodramatic, the third series was put in a shit slot on BBC2 but it was also given a repeat or something on BBC3 which at the time the BBC thought was quite prestidgious. It was undervalued in publicity terms because the BBC wanted to give "The Office" maximum push rather than belittle LoG because LoG was seen as a show with a built-in 'cult' audience which knew it would be on anyway. I well remember Jane Root saying that she knew LoG had many followers that she knew loved the programme in much the same way as someone would say they knew many people who had shit on their shoe and loved it but she still put the League of Gentlemen on. Also, Reece Shearsmith is techy on the second series commentary as well but I don't think its evidence of fussing and fighting between the LoG and the BBC - I think he can just be a grumpy sod sometimes. Also the BBC was never really going to be a viable proposition for making the film, they haven't got the money.
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